Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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Out of curiosity I'm looking them up now, as expensive as paint in most cases and with all the mangy clear coat will stick out like a sore thumb unless I want to do some funky design like carbon fiber to hide it. DIY look interesting though, I'm still reading up on it.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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05/30/15 09:38 PM
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Out of curiosity I'm looking them up now, as expensive as paint in most cases and with all the mangy clear coat will stick out like a sore thumb unless I want to do some funky design like carbon fiber to hide it. DIY look interesting though, I'm still reading up on it. Very true... There's a really awesome thread that member Roe did while painting his truck. It turned out really nice and he did it with a roller. It's in the truck section I believe. Take a look. He did all the work himself and I think it cost him like $350-500.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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if your insurance company won't insure because of paint, i would be looking for a different one. Hagarty and I understand their point of view. They don't want to insure a car that some would only consider daily driver material as it is specialty insurance. They would like to see before and after pics as proof the car is getting restored, I don't have a problem with that. If the body shop stepped up as they promised it would be a non-issue and there would not even be a posting here. I have a few irons in the fire though and there might be an alternate in play. To add to the fun I dragged home a rust free GLHS 2-dr today and a Rampage converted to turbo, the price was too good to pass up.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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05/31/15 10:37 PM
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if your insurance company won't insure because of paint, i would be looking for a different one. Hagarty and I understand their point of view. They don't want to insure a car that some would only consider daily driver material as it is specialty insurance. They would like to see before and after pics as proof the car is getting restored, I don't have a problem with that. i understand how it is now. but what happens if it gets damaged racing [parking lot pylons or other type] ? i don't think they have coverage for that. perhaps insure under your daily driver policy until paint/body work is complete ?
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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i understand how it is now. but what happens if it gets damaged racing [parking lot pylons or other type] ? i don't think they have coverage for that.
I'd hardly file a claim for paint damage caused by hitting a cone at an autocross event, far more concerned with dipsh*ts on the road in CT running into me. Drove to Maine and back this weekend and it did not improve my opinion of the average driver on the road.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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I'll say it again since it was ignored the 1st time....sand this car lightly and spray a fresh coat of clear on it.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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I'll say it again since it was ignored the 1st time....sand this car lightly and spray a fresh coat of clear on it. It was noted but I think the paint is far to gone in spots. Might try it on my truck though as the clear is just starting to go on the roof.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Any delamination/fading needs to be sanded down. The sun will fade the pigments in the paint. Unless you don't care if you can see where the clear is gone now, you need to blow a quick coat of color over before clear.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Epoxy primer = nice new layer to build from
2K primer = level to make sure surface is flat. Will stick to new epoxy
Epoxy primer as sealer = nice coat for paint to stick to, seals over potential different surfaces in the 2K primer as you sand to make it flat
Base = color layer
Clear = extra cost, but level of paint you can sand for flat finish and buff to a shine
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Hot Rod Black = Great paint but it took a quart just to do my 74 Satellite hood. Like someone said, it is a bear to get even coats. I have only painted 3 cars so I am still a rookie, but that Hot Rod Black was a PITA.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Car is in the shop, 7 days.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Back from the body shop, 6 days.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Just my opinion, but if you are not experienced with a spray gun a flat black paint job will most likely not come out well. Everyone seems to think that flat black is easy. If you dont have good overlap while spraying, it will be all kinds of streaky. I'd leave it alone until you have a chance to do it right. GREAT points made here. Flat or even matte finishes require a 75% to 90% overlap to achieve an even sheen. Less than that will often result in tiger striped sections where the gloss varies from a shine to a flat finish. It cannot be corrected by sanding either, the panels have to be repainted.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Now you need a decal kit!
Looks good so far.
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Re: Paint guys- I'm behind the eight ball
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Now you need a decal kit! On order.
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